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 Original Posting 2020/12/15

Writer's Digest, March 1991, pages 22-27, had an article talking about Clive Barker. The subtitle was "His fiction deals with the wildest ideas imaginable, yet Barker strives to maintain 'emotional realism.' Here's how he creates such dark fantasy bestsellers as The Great and Secret Show and Weaveworld."


The article starts out with a little background history of Clive Barker. Born in Liverpool in 1952, in the 70s he went to London and got involved with avant-garde theater. He was "the enfant terrible of London's fringe theater..." In the 80s, he started writing fiction, and was first published in 1984. "Horror stories laced with vivid imagery, sardonic wit and sometimes copious amounts of gore." Wild ideas rooted in a realistic framework. 


And then he tackled movies, too! Hellraiser...


"Readers know Barker for hish use of graphic sex and violence in his work." Hum... rigorous writing schedule, 8-12 hours a day. Writes in longhand! Then they drop into an interview format...


Q: When you're writing, do you first focus on the characters or the ideas?

A: The characters. Very much the characters.... Get the reader to accept one thing, one weirdness, and then the rest of it must follow realistically. ... 

Q: When the story ideas begin to get very bizarre or complex, what can you do to make sure you don't lose that sort of emotional underpinning?

A: The first thing is you've got to believe in the characters. You've got to be thinking with the characters and you've got to be in their skins. ... Any writer's belief in his or her characters -- or the situations in which the characters find themselves -- is central to his ability to convince the audience.

The second thing is that I look for parallel situations.

Q: I know you visited a prison before you wrote "In the Flesh" and I know you've watched an autopsy. Do you think that kind of firsthand research is necessary to what you do, even though your work is so involved with the imagination?

A: I think it's maybe more necessary because I'm involved with the imagination. It's very important to root your material, your fiction, in some knid fo reality. ... Solid research gives you a great place to move off from. It allows you a springboard, if you like, out into the fantastical.

Q: Have you ever had to scale back an idea or a plot line because you thought the characters were getting dwarfed by it?

A: Not really. ... Part of the pleasure of writing is taking risks. 

Q: Working on a novel that size, is there a danger of getting halfway through and thinking ... "Is this idea worth the time and emotion and everything else I'm putting into it?"

A: Absolutely. Starting wtih short fiction showed me that you can put a lot of material in 30 pages. If you are going to write 700 pages, they better be full. You better have an idea which is going to justify that length, justify the audience reading the thing for that long. ... I want a novel to be like getting a box of really great chocolates and you just have to go on to the next one and each one is different. ...

Q: Would you recommend short stories as a good place to start for people who want to write imaginative fiction?

A: ... It depends on the idea the individual's got. Short fiction lets you finish soon. A large novel means you have to pace yourself.

... I think it's very important that you try to be original, that you don't simply follow in the tracks of someone else. ... go out and do whatever makes sense to your imagination.

...

Q: What advice do you wish someone had given you when you first started to write fiction?

A: To have faith in my imagination. To not care that this wasn't 'reality.' 


Whoosh! Okay, so... let your imagination roam, and follow where it leads you!


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Original posting 21 June 2008

Make a Scene, chapter 9: Subtext

So we're taking a look at Make a Scene by Jordan Rosenfeld. We're deep in Part 2 looking at various core elements and the scene. Setting, senses, character development and motivation, plot -- and now in Chapter 9, a look at subtext.

"Scenes often need depth or subtext, texture that links the scene to the themes and larger plot of your narrative, and fleshes them out." And Rosenfeld points out that building in subtext is often a task for the second draft or revisions, when you know the story and the characters better, and have a better understanding of the message or idea or moral of the story.

Rosenfeld suggests that good scenes have a surface -- the visible parts -- and an underbelly, the subtext, where the emotional baggage, agendas, secrets, and motivations roil. There are several techniques for creating subtext.

Thematic imagery or symbols. When you use the images that metaphorically or symbolically tie-in to the theme, this can help remind the reader of the large idea even in the middle of the tactical plot and scene. This doesn't have to be overdone -- a couple of highlights can be plenty. Plant symbols subtly, without rubbing the reader's nose in them.

Innuendo. Characters in fiction often come across truths that they don't want to admit to themselves or others -- and all too often, someone insists on reminding them. Teasing, accusation, wordplay -- this can be fun! Use innuendo to subtly point fingers, adding complication to the scene and the dialogue.

Unconscious or uncontrollable behavior. Most of the time, characters do things on purpose -- intentionally. But those unintended actions can speak louder than anything else.

Foreground and background. Even though the reader's attention is on what's happening in the foreground, you can use the background for subtle messages and emotional layers. Sure, the protagonist is about to declare his undying love -- but what's his little brother doing gagging behind him? What are the secondary characters doing while the primary characters take over the foreground?

Think of your scenes as multidimensional. You want them to be deep and complex -- so give them a rich subtext.

The assignment this week is much like that of other weeks. Start with a scene in a novel that you like or one that you're working on. Now go through and see if you can identify pieces that provides subtext in this scene. Are there images or symbols? Do characters use innuendo to suggest things? Are any of the characters doing things without thinking about it? Is something happening in the background that adds a bit more depth? Are there other techniques helping to provide subtext for this scene?

For extra credit, you can always take an entire story or novel, and think about the theme or moral underlying it. Then consider at least five ways that you might weave that theme into a scene of your choice. What imagery or symbols might you use? Is there something you could plant in the characters' dialogue? How could the unconscious behavior of one or more characters reflect that theme? What might happen behind your main action to reflect the theme?

Go ahead, write!
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Original posting: Wed, 30 Apr 1997 23:38:04 EDT


Since I have recently been relaxing with Kenneth Burke, and have made
some notes which may contribute their own tangency (no, that's
tanginess...zest, flavor, saviour...something like that at lease...
well, let's get on with the tossing, okay?)

Some Bits for the Salad
(p. 10) "A poet's identification with imagery...is...merely a concern with _terms for transformation in general._"

"When considering transformation in general, we may stress the respects in which many different kinds of image can perform the same function."

(p. 12) "The range of images that can be used for concretizing the process of transformation is limited only by the imagination and ingenuity of poets. But the selective nature of existence favors some images above others--and high among them, naturally, is the imagery of Life and Death, with its variants of being born, being reborn, dying, killing, and being killed."

"For the so-called 'desire to kill' a certain person is much more properly analyzable as a desire to _transform the principle_ which that person _represents._"
from
A Rhetoric of Motives
Kenneth Burke
University of California Press 1969

I can feel the celery snap, I can taste the dressing now...
lettuce ahead, croutons all around, and mashed sardines at base:
words tossed everywhich way!

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