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Original Posting 12 August 2009

riters' Digest, October 2004, pages 26 to 33, has a collection of short "nuggets of wisdom" related to getting published. Maria Schneider is the author of the compilation. Take a deep breath, and here we go:

"Be the writer who stays in the chair. When you struggle to find the answers to the tricky questions posed by your story, when you push through the feeling that the piece is no longer as inspired or wonderful as it seemed at first blush, you push your project to its next level. And you push yourself forward as a writer." Jack Heffron

Interesting advice. Especially given the tendency to try to provide "idiot proof" guidance for almost everything, it's refreshing to be reminded that everything isn't always exciting or simple. Sometimes you have to struggle to figure things out. Sometimes you have to keep going even when the project doesn't feel cool or fun -- that commitment to keep going is part of the process.

I wonder if this isn't part of what divides the hobbyists from the professionals? I mean, hobbyists tend to want to do the fun stuff, but don't really have a reason to do the boring stuff. Professionals take a slightly longer view and do the whole job, including the tedious and boring parts.

Struggle, push, keep going -- it sounds like the advice we give our protagonists when they face that dark alley on the way to the goal, doesn't it? Still, it's the way we get things done. Step-by-step, stumbling, struggling, working our way through things.

It sort of makes the achievement worthwhile, doesn't it? If it was easy, would it be worth it?
[identity profile] mbarker.livejournal.com
Original posting 8 July 2009

Writers' Digest, October 2004, pages 26 to 33, has a collection of short "nuggets of wisdom" related to getting published. Maria Schneider is the author of the compilation. Take a deep breath, and here we go:
"Smart first-time authors focus on their writing. They'll celebrate their first sale, then ask, 'What should I do next?'" Donald Maass
Interesting point. Especially given the current sales and length of time for making sales, it's important not to get invested in the individual sale, especially that first one. Set up your process for writing, your regular approach to getting the words out. When a sale comes, that's great. But the key is to keep writing.

It's a bit like pottery or almost anything else. Having one selected and honored -- sold -- is great, but you want to have a selection on the shelves. That's what makes the customer browse the shelves, and gives you something to show the customer who says that's almost right, do you have it in a little different shade?

Celebrate your sales. And then ask yourself, "What should I do next?"
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Original Posting 23 June 2009

Writer's Digest, February 2008, pages 32 to 35, have an article by Bill O'Hanlon with the title, "baby steps." The subtitle is "Stop obsessing about writing a book. Instead, spend 15 minutes writing one page, five times a week for a year."

The key is small steps. O'Hanlon refers to a Chinese proverb: enough shovels of earth -- a mountain. Enough pails of water -- a river. So how do you do it?

1. Small assignments. Instead of focusing on the whole task, look at the smallest piece of the task. A page a week, a chapter a week, set yourself some small assignments. O'Hanlon suggests starting with a simple outline, then elaborating that with ideas for anecdotes, quotations, exercises, scenes, plot points, which characters are in which scene and where it takes place. You may only be able to do one scene or one chapter in detail, but that's OK. Put the detailed points on index cards or some other portable form, and write that part. Then do it again.

2. Small increments. A lot of us prefer a big chunk of time, but it's a lot easier to commit a small piece. Try five or 10 or 15 minutes. Commit yourself to spending at least that much time in each session. First thing in the morning, lunchtime, fit it into your schedule and do it. Write for five minutes and you'll probably have about a page of words. Write a page every day for a year -- that's a book! A page every day for the next week? Or maybe three times a week for the next month? Give yourself small assignments with small chunks of time committed. You might be surprised at how fast it adds up.

3. Break the mental barrier. Big projects are often mentally and emotionally scary. But when you do it a little bit at a time, you can eat the elephant. Look at where you're blocking yourself -- why is that the focus of your attention? Try shifting your focus to something else. Maybe you're fretting about finding a publisher -- don't worry about that until you write the book! Write for the pleasure of it, just to get a bunch of words down. Instead of trying to be the great American writer, do it better than that writer you didn't like did.

O'Hanlon suggests the psychotherapy technique of externalizing. Identify the inner voices or ideas that are stopping you from writing. Then consider them as external. Take that voice or idea and think about it as something that somebody outside of you is saying.

Some people find it useful to do some physical externalization. Writing the ideas that block you down on a piece of paper, and then burning them up. Or carry a rock around as a representation of your fears. When you get tired of the extra weight, get rid of it. Incidentally, O'Hanlon suggests that a search for "narrative therapy" will provide more information about this.

4. Develop your identity as a writer. What do you identify yourself as? Are you a plumber who occasionally writes, or are you a writer? Thinking of yourself as a writer, and doing things that you think a writer should do, helps.

That's O'Hanlon's article. Part of it is the notion of focusing on small assignments in small chunks of time, instead of trying to conquer the mountain in one enormous burst of effort. The other part is taking a look at our own mental blocks and identity.

Exercise: for the next week, take the work in progress and consider the smallest piece that you could do? Can you break it into one page pieces? Commit yourself to writing for five minutes. Take a look at how it adds up.

Write.
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original posting 14 June 2009

Writers' Digest, October 2004, pages 26 to 33, has a collection of short "nuggets of wisdom" related to getting published. Maria Schneider is the author of the compilation. Take a deep breath, and here we go:
"Continue to learn the craft. Try to make each book better, stronger. Never settle for adequate. Learn that the delete button is your best friend. Know that every time you do a rewrite, the book is going to shine that much brighter." Katherine Sutcliffe
What can I say? Sing another verse of The Impossible Dream? Beyond satisficing -- upwards and onwards! Yeah, wordily, though I write through the night, there are still pages to go and plots to twist before I sleep?

As I've said a time or two,
WRITE!

and I know, if I'll only be...
[identity profile] mbarker.livejournal.com
Original posting 15 May 2009

Writers' Digest, October 2004, pages 26 to 33, has a collection of short "nuggets of wisdom" related to getting published. Maria Schneider is the author of the compilation. Take a deep breath, and here we go:

"I see a lot of people who want to be writers, but they spend their time doing everything but writing. They take classes, conferences, do outlines and character sketches, read books about writing -- they do everything but write. My best advice is to write and realize it's a trial-and-error process." Susan Elizabeth Phillips

Hum. You mean that the trick, the secret, the way to be a writer is to write? But... that's like work. Sit down and write? Then write some more? And ...

WRITE!
[identity profile] mbarker.livejournal.com
original posting 12 May 2009

Writers' Digest, October 2004, pages 26 to 33, has a collection of short "nuggets of wisdom" related to getting published. Maria Schneider is the author of the compilation. Take a deep breath, and here we go:
"If you want to be a writer, find a couple of hours in the morning or evening and do nothing but write. That's plenty of time to be a productive writer. The biggest impediment for almost everybody is the fact that it's harder than you think to just sit there and stare at the computer and pound something out. But finding the time isn't the issue as much as finding the will to do it." Dave Barry, author
Decide to do it. Write. Five minutes, 10 minutes, an hour here or there, maybe Saturday morning or Sunday afternoon. Whenever. But do it.

Write.
[identity profile] mbarker.livejournal.com
Original posting 1 May 2009

Writers' Digest, October 2004, pages 26 to 33, has a collection of short "nuggets of wisdom" related to getting published. Maria Schneider is the author of the compilation. Take a deep breath, and here we go:
"You write the book you're driven to write, and you really can't do more than that. It's a leap of faith, the entire book is a leap of faith, and not everybody is going to take it with me." Alice Sebold
How do you know what people want to read? Actually, you don't. You write the best book you can, the story that grips you, the poem that is singing in your heart -- and then you find out. Of course, every day when you wake up and get out of bed, you make that same leap of faith -- driven into it by the passage of time, no doubt, but still -- we always do things and then find out how the rest of the world will react. It would be a very strange world indeed if the world reacted and then we did things, wouldn't it? Life is a risky business, but it's the only game around, so go ahead and play it!

Oh, and write.
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Original posting 25 December 2008

It must be time for another great piece from Writers Digest! The March 2005 issue, pages 40 to 42, has an article by Sandra Dark with the title "Your Grand Finale." The point is to keep writing (where have I heard that before? :-) And Sandra provides five strategies to keep you going until the end. So don't stop now, let's take a look!
  1. Take Small Bites. Instead of burying yourself with the whole huge project, focus on one small piece at a time. (tink is reminded of the joke about how to eat an elephant -- one bite at a time) Sandra talks about starting with a pack of index cards, and noting on each card what will happen in an upcoming scene or chapter. Then to write, she works on one card. One of the key advantages is that this lets her pick up even after extended interruptions, and keep moving steadily if slowly.
  2. Know Where You're Headed. A clear idea of plot direction, character development, and other crucial elements is necessary -- that doesn't mean you have to outline every detail in the story though. One suggestion is starting with a three sentence synopsis for the whole story. That's enough to tell you where you're going and make it easier to keep on track.
  3. Have Enough to Say. A well-defined premise, adequate research, and a strong message can really push you to write the whole thing. Having enough tension and conflict and a good foundation really provides the framework that lets you keep working.
  4. Develop A Quota System. Lots of writers use some kind of measurable quota to keep themselves moving forward. Having a habit lets you achieve your goals. Daily page quotas, or maybe a quota of time, can help ensure that you get something done. And even a little bit on a regular basis soon adds up.
  5. Don't Look Back. The first draft will have flaws -- so don't keep reworking the beginning. Push on, finish the first draft, then do your revision and rewriting.
Sandra finishes with a quote from Kent Haruf, "most people who fancy they want to write quit before they get good enough, because it's too difficult. You have to think of it as your religion, as something you're devoted to, something you attend to daily, bringing all you can to it. The only thing to do with a story is to finish it. And then go on and write the next one."

Putting that in my own words -- break it down and focus on one bite at a time, keep your eye on where you're headed, make sure there's enough to do, set quotas, and write the first draft before you rewrite it? Some good reminders about how to keep writing until you reach the end. So let's see -- the first step is probably...

Write!
[identity profile] mbarker.livejournal.com
Original posting: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 11:30:57 JST

Hi, Ipatia

I'll keep this short.

1. Outline. Then fit bits into the outline. Repeat. Each attack on the outline may be only a few words, but in a very short time you'll have a long outline. Then expand a little bit at a time again. Just like blowing up a balloon, you don't have to do it in one big whoosh, you can do it with little puffs and when you finish, no one but you will know the difference.

2. Scribble sheet. Write the extra thoughts and side issues on another sheet of paper (I keep a clipboard by the computer). Then make yourself go back to the part you promised yourself you would work on.

3. Reward yourself AFTER doing a bit. Then set your goals a little longer/higher and don't reward yourself until you hit them. That snack is a reward for not writing - which isn't what you want to do, right?

Try those three.
tink
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original posting: Fri, 4 Feb 1994 08:18:19 JST

(I split the subject because Tsirbas really isn't talking about my exercises, but about how to write - I think)

Tsirbas wrote
- Exercises cannot, however, replace the act of actually sitting down
- and writing a complete piece from start to finish with the goal of
- meeting the criteria of some outline or idea one has had.
Well, no, but... I have to admit, I've been in too many places where someone said "Just write" (talk, program, paint, ...) without providing some clues to the pieces. my ski instructor didn't take me to the top of the expert slope and say "Now Ski." There were some preliminaries. Why do chess players practice gambits, positions, closings, and so on?

Or maybe a better illustration is over in the artistic painting field - the instructor rarely sits you down, hands you brush, oils, etc. and says "Now Paint!" First you get to practice and study composition, perspective, colors, etc. In many schools, you'll spend quite a while simply copying "old masters" - imitate this. now do it again. okay, here's another one.

I will admit, some teachers may start by saying "do it" - then start giving out studies, exercises, and so forth based on what they see as your weak spots or abilities needing sharpening. That's testing by doing, and is pretty useful...

Let me suggest that writing suffers from this notion that we can do it "naturally." Admittedly, everyone studies some in school - but does the year of shop that I took in school make me a great cabinet maker? Or the several art classes I had - which came very close to convincing me that I hated the stuff and was totally unable to do it?

Let me suggest where I see the exercises fit. (not just mine, there are books and magazines and so forth stuffed with them)

It's just like painting or any other creative pursuit. There are parts of the process which can be separated out and studied - practiced - independently (these are exercises). While it may seem tedious, even boring or pointless, these provide the basic tools that then are used in the final act. If you want to paint, you may get perspective, color studies, endless copying of old masters, and a whole host of other exercises. Some teachers may start by saying "paint" - and then assign exercises based on what they see you missing. Others just start with a set of basics and move everyone through them.

So - yeah, the exercises don't replace the basic WRITE - FINISH - MARKET cycle. But just like any set of exercises, the skills you learn may very well help you when you try the real game...

Exercises, in most fields, are intended to construct, reinforce, and sharpen desirable habits, models, or patterns of thought, which then carry over into practice. In some cases, the exercise may be extended into something useful in itself, but the main point is to condition the process so that it happens "naturally."

I'm kind of intrigued with your description of Ray Bradbury's process - where did you learn this?

Personally, from his Zen in the Art of Writing and the frequently reprinted one with the silly long name ... usually shortened to "The Thing at the Head of the Stairs" ... I have the impression that he started with at least 10 years of imitating the "old masters." At least one thousand words a day, just imitating - that's exercise! Then he sold a story or two - and went back to imitating for another ten years or so. Then he started his list of words and phrases, and started "intuitive" writing.

I think I could almost depend on my "natural" writing after churning out some 8,000,000 words of imitation... that's roughly 50 to 80 novels he wrote in "exercises" to get to the point of writing short stories "naturally."

Further, the one week crank it and drop it in the mail idea is pretty common to the writers from the "Great Pulp" era. It's where Asimov got blamed for saying first drafts only (as he explains it, he "rewrote" heavily beforehand, but to save paper, only typed it once), Heinlein got a similar reputation, Jack Williamson, the list goes on. Mostly, I think it was economics - the big market was short stories, the pay stunk, you couldn't do much else.

Several mystery writers also had similar notions - and some of them were cranking out whole novels (short, perhaps, but penny dreadfuls...) I know I've seen one of them commenting on a period when s/he wrote one complete novel each week.

Even then - read carefully between the lines, and you see some of these writers spending time "behind the curtains" - lists of words, draft notes, brainstorming, and so forth. I think they did tend to focus on one story, and really work on that one "at the top" during the week - but the other stories were perking...

BTW - as I've related before, I've seen Harlan Ellison (I think) in a publicized stunt write a "brand-new" story during a convention. Tapped away at the typewriter, posted the pages as he finished them, and sold the story. BUT he also had a huge ratty lab notebook (engineer style) that he kept sneaking peeks at... I can believe the "final writing" was new at the convention, but I would dearly love to know what kind of "prewriting" was in that notebook.

[in the following, I grow a bit unrestrained in my wording. Please believe, Tsirbas, that I am not attacking you - I am simply reacting to a notion that I think has caused more trouble for me than I ever would have believed. You are getting the backblast from fighting this evil python for over 20 years... sorry!]
- Creative exercises are of no use to a writer unless he or she, upon
- sitting down to write, is able to let go of all restraint, of all
- preconceptions and all possible criticsms. If upon sitting down, and
- having a brilliant, twisted idea you think, "What will my mother's
- reaction be when she sees this in print?" then you have already set
- limitations on your creativity. No amount of exercises will make you a
- better writer unless you are true to your own personal genius.
time out! number one, while I agree that part of the process of creativity consists of lowering, challenging, and otherwise working around restraints, preconceptions, and fear of criticism, guess what - that's almost exactly the point of the exercises I'm posting! That process CAN be exercised and trained - that's a big part of what DeBono (anyone recognize the CoRT exercises?) has spent some 40 years or so showing people. It ain't just "you got it" or "you ain't" - there are clearly defined ways of helping you slip those bounds.

(in fact, if you're interested, there's a theoretical background that explains why these bounds are so tight, and how the lateral thinking techniques work around them - read The Mechanism of Mind.)

I've personally used these techniques in training people, and my experience is that they work. Try them, and judge for yourself.

number two - there's the "natural writer" notion again - somewhere buried under all that gunk, there is a creative genius waiting to be freed. Simply lay aside all the bonds that life has put upon you, and it will emerge and shatter the world. Drugs, drinking, god I gotta live in the village... maybe acid will free the true genius...

Bull! that's saying the little kid playing with paints against the wall is automatically better than the artist who has spent years learning to do the basics, to the point where the technique "vanishes" and the art appears.

Better yet - consider the old Zen adage, that when you know nothing, trees are trees, and mountains are mountains. When you begin to learn, trees are not trees, and mountains are not mountains. And when you reach the essence of Zen - trees are trees again, and mountains mountains.

Translate that into writing - when you know nothing, stories are stories. Then you start to learn, and nothing seems quite right. And when you really get it down - stories are stories again.

I think most of us are in the "nothing seems quite right" phase - and practicing the basics until they are habitual is one way of getting past that...

sorry - I don't buy the "natural genius" model. that's the approach that takes 100 programmers, sits them down, says "program" - then trashes 99 of them, since they aren't "naturals." guess what - I can take 100, and in 98 of them, make them not just humdrum, but magic gurus that companies are happy to steal. I've done it. And I refuse to play the game of saying if you can't do it natural, you can't do it.

(two go off and play with each other - every time! some things take precedence, I suppose...)

this is a critical point to me. please don't trashcan people - we don't have enough to go around, honest. and that's what the "natural" writer method does.

Every "natural" I've studied, met, spent time with (programmers, writers, potters, painters, and others) has spent quite a bit of blood and sweat, time and energy, learning the basics so well that they can do it "naturally." It's almost offensive to call them "natural" - they are so far from "natural" that mistaking their trained abilities for some kind of natural in-born talent belittles the efforts they have taken to get there. Saying it is "unconscious" now simply means they've worked at it a lot!

Okay? I happen to agree - practice, practice, practice. Some people do it copying old masters, some insist on beating their own way in the wilderness, some prefer nicely packaged little "technique" exercises, some want or need a grand theory to tie it all together, but everyone needs to keep working until they reach the point of "natural" writing... which is highly unnatural!

If you mean you have to practice until writing becomes habitual - I'll agree!

Did I misunderstand you completely? I really hate this idea, and I'm afraid I may have read it into what you wrote, in which case I owe you an apology for dumping this on you...

[again, sorry about the harsh words. I just really hate this notion of "natural genius" with all of its implications for those who "don't have it." No one has it!]

tink
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original posting: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 09:24:01 EST

From Organize Yourself by Ronni Eisenberg...
(p. 6) "Some of the reasons people procrastinate are the following:
  • They feel overwhelmed. This usually happens when there is an overload of information or too many details
  • They overestimate the time needed. They think the task is too time-consuming, that it will take _forever_. A variation of this is thinking that they have forever to finish something.
  • They'd rather be doing something else. Anything seems better than what awaits them.
  • They think that if they wait long enough, it will go away. The project will be cancelled; the appointment postponed, and so forth.
  • They want to do it perfectly. People often fear turning in a report or finishing a project because they worry about failing on 'judgment day.' They delay until the last minute, and then if it doesn't measure up, they say, "Oh, I would have done better if I'd had more time."
  • They don't want to assume responsibility. After all, if they never complete the project, no one will hold them responsible.
  • They fear success. If they complete something and succeed, whill they be able to continue to life up to that standard? How will others relate to them once they are successful?
  • They say they enjoy the last-minute adrenaline rush. Often people feel that they do their best work 'under pressure.' What they fail to remember are the times when they had a terrible cold or there was a family emergency during the time they had intended to devote to the project."
Eisenburg goes on to suggest that you identify your reasons for procrastinating.
1. Which situations generally cause you to procrastinate? What types of situations? What price do you pay for the delay? When you finally do the work, what gets you going (deadline? reward? outside pressure?)
2. When you find yourself procrastinating about something specific, consider: What about this causes conflict for you? What are you avoiding? If you delay, what will happen? If the question really is _when_ to do it, ask yourself if it is worth paying the price of the delay?
(whoops, that wasn't the right one...let's try this one...)

How to be organized: in spite of yourself by Sunny Schlenger and Roberta Roesch

(this might be the one?) They list ten (10!) operational styles, five time, five space:
Time: hopper, perfectionist plus, allergic to detail, fence sitter, cliff hanger
Space: everything out, nothing out, right angler, pack rat, total slob
(darn, that's a reasonably good one too, but it isn't the one I was thinking of...I don't think I'm going to find it right now, so let's just yackity-yack about it, okay?)

Somewhere, someone had the notion that various people work best with various kinds of goal setting. Some folks thrive with deadlines...keep their feet to the fire and they love it! (not me, but I have known people who really did work best that way) Others prefer the slow steady drop of water, timing the minutes, hours, and days of their appointed rounds...i.e., give them a time-based schedule to keep, and they are steady workers putting in their hours. Yet others prefer piece-work thumping: setting a quota (words, pages, scenes, etc.) per (day|week|month) works well for them.

There may have been more variations, but those are the ones I remember: deadline, scheduled time each day, production quota per day.

I recommend contemplating your navel (being honest with yourself, maybe experimenting a bit--oh, and get the fuzz out, too) as a way to decide which one works for you. Don't dive into it, just consider which one you think works best, and try it for a while...if it doesn't seem to be working, switch!

I also strongly recommend giving yourself room--you need to slow down sometimes. You need to leave yourself the "breathing" times when you put the current piece on the back shelf and let the umbilicus that ties you to it fade away...so that you can look at it afresh and clean up those embarrassing blotches, confusions, and tangles that slipped in when you were too close to see them. You need to allow for Murphy--you thought you were going to work on this over the last weekend before you needed it? And your favorite relative just flew into town...

(interjectively, while contemplating the umbilical knotting, the omphalos around which the generations churn, consider this--time can be considered in many ways, including the notions of being late, procrastinating, etc., but also including the notion that you can neither gain time nor lose it--you are always at the present, not one second sooner or later. I.e., you have 24 hours every day at your disposal--but you can't squeeze one extra second out of that allotment nor can you force one extra iota of time into it to do something extra. So use the now well, but accept that you can only do so much...and don't forget to watch the clouds sometimes, as they dance for you! consider the metaphors of time, and which ones you choose to honor and obey.)

Or, of course, you could try something like this...
Delay of the Land

Procrastination is the game,
Dilatory takes the blame,
But speed kills,
haste makes waste, and
Time fled when you were
n't
having fun.

Don't kill time,
embrace it.
[well, that's helped me avoid doing whatever I was supposed to be doing for a while... hope it helps you, too :]

TECH: Hah!

Sep. 18th, 2008 11:18 am
[identity profile] mbarker.livejournal.com
original posting: Sat, 15 Jan 1994 18:35:02 JST

From Writer's Digest, January 1994, p. 6 - an article about Thom Jones (1992 O. Henry award winner, etc.)

A couple of years ago, Jones says, he got "sick and tired" of being rejected. "I felt like, 'I've got nothing to lose. I'm just going to write what I want to write. I'm going to write a story that I'd like to read.' As soon as I did that, things changed."
...
Then, on a whim, he submitted it [his award winning story - rejected by the literary journals and small press] to _The New Yorker_. "I thought I might as well be rejected by them, too," he recalls. Instead, the magazine accepted the story, and Jone's career was launched.

[my note - he had been writing for 30 years without publication! with an 8 year "block" from despair!]

Moral (Let me pound that point home!): KEEP WRITING! NEVER ASSUME YOU CAN'T CRACK THOSE TOP MARKETS! It does happen.

(ya gotta believe!)
tink
[identity profile] mbarker.livejournal.com
Original posting: Fri, 29 Jan 1993 16:41:41 JST

Peter, jbutcher, and Karen Lowe (at least),

First for Peter and jbutcher...

- To be honest, I was hoping for that as well as information about
- potential occupational opportunites, the writing market, etc. Is this
- kind of thing normally discussed on here?
-
- I'm interested in the writing market and how to go about getting something
- published, or what the best approach to take is with publishers/magazines/
- newspapers...I don't think I've seen anything on this list yet that addresses

Jane said...
- All you need to do is ask, and I guarantee SOMEONE will
- respond (whether it's what you want to hear or not).

I guess I qualify as SOMEONE, so let me bend your eyes for awhile:-)

I'm fairly sure the serious folks have gotten back to you. I hope so, because I certainly am interested in these questions, and am (possibly) more out of touch with the markets than you are.

You may know all this, but I can suggest you visit your library or bookstore (cripes, you have easy access to both of those with LOTS of English language books *envy*) and look carefully at Writer's Digest books - there's a big hardcover each year (Writer's Market), plus recently a stack of paperbacks for specialties. Despite drawbacks that someone will likely point out, that's probably the best general reference. They also put out a monthly magazine "Writer's Digest", and there's "The Writer" and at least one more whose name I cannot recall which you can usually find in Walden's or B. Dalton's magazine racks.

If the serious folks have something they send by email in answer to questions like this and are on bitnet, could you send me a copy, too?

This next part isn't really answers, more a series of questions I've wrestled with in regard to my writing. I hope they might help you think about "the market".

Now, I'm going to start with a funny question - are you just interested in being published, or do you want money too? I think it makes a significant difference in the markets you're looking at as to how you answer that.

Let me add one more odd question - do you insist on your article (story, poem, etc.) being published exactly the way you wrote it or can the editor change the title, rewrite the lead-in paragraph, and otherwise fit your work to their needs? How you answer that question also affects your markets.

Let me give you an example - (blatant self-plug follows) - if you look at the January 1993 issue of IEEE Software in the book reviews, you'll find a piece with my name on it. I get "paid" with two copies and the book I review (actually, with computer book prices what they are, that's not bad pay:-). But - the editor wrote the lead-in using something I had in mine, and she's never used any of my titles. She also hacked it again, even after I'd seen the approval copy. Not that I'm objecting - we've done this before, and she knows I'm not a stickler about it. In fact, her headlines are much better than my proposals, and she's trying to juggle text, ads, and noisier writers into a product against a deadline, so I don't argue when she makes last-minute changes. In fact, she's told me that's one reason she likes to use my pieces - because I do understand the kind of work she's doing, and let her do it.

The editor also enjoyed that piece because I used an extended metaphor - I said the author reviewed the field of email, and then I talked about him showing us the flowers, cow patties, and other things. Not your ordinary boring technical review, and in the cover I carefully made sure she understood that if she didn't like it, I would redo the piece.

You might say - that's non-fiction, just a book review, that's different. You should read "Grumbles From the Grave" by Robert Heinlein. This is the collected history of an "established writer" trying to get fiction published - a fascinating insight.

And yet another question to help point your self-searching - do you insist on writing fiction or non-fiction? Do you have a specific genre or specialization that you just have to be published in, or is your drive more generous with you? Again, the answer affects how you look at and attack the market.

Oh, one other very off-beat question - do you insist on having your name on your writing? Suppose the editor puts your name on some things, but leaves it off some? Or suppose the editor puts someone else's name on pieces you've written? These are critical questions, especially if you get into some of the newspaper markets.

If you don't mind doing non-fiction (you shouldn't, it's a good field and helps pay the way for many other pursuits), here are some entryways I know that used to be fairly generous - book reviews in many professional magazines (it helps if you work in that field - and then they give you books to read!), small newspapers (weeklies, etc.), your local political office/church/other social group... During grad school, I also wrote a stack of press releases which the PR people happily distributed for me. No name, no pay, and the newspapers tended to rewrite or cut like crazy, but sometimes I could tell where my words had gone. Note that these are largely zero or negative in terms of pay, but they give you practice and help build your clip book. They are also almost entirely non-fiction.

OK, Karen. I've been following the other pieces, but I wanted to comment on this...

- I'm interested in the "Rinky-Dink" Society. Personally, I usually get a
- decent response from my poetry, but am unable to compete with current
- popular forms of poetry. You may have noticed my "Victorian Poetry". I've
- decided to go the Emily Dickinson route, write tons of stuff, publish a few
- and tell the "official" critics to take a flying leap, their grandchildren
- will love my stuff. ;-) Karen Lowe.

whoa! wait a minute. "unable to compete with current forms of poetry"? Karen, I'm the bloody fool around here, you certainly beat my doggerel hands down. You even know what Randy's caesurus are, apparently.

I suppose you mean you don't think you'll make Redbook, or whatever the main mass market pub's are now? I doubt very much if my stuff (poetry, story, or non-fiction) will ever hit that kind of market, but is it important?

I'm afraid I take a little different approach to writing. I don't think there are "winners" per se, in the sense that there is one champ, with everyone else ranked below them. As in certain martial arts and other fields, the question is whether you executed your art as well as you could or not, no matter how other people look at it. Do you really think that the vast majority of marathon racers compete to win? Or do they run against themselves, whether alone or in the midst of others?

Here, do me a favor, would you? Write yourself a poem on the theme of the runner (swimmer, writer, whatever you like) whose only purpose is their own pleasure, and the feelings they have when one day someone stops them and says "You came in first". The unconscious, surprised winner, shall we say? Then, if you like, I'd enjoy reading it.

Karen, I think poets perhaps more than any other branch of writing need to forget about the normal measures for societal accomplishment. You know the plot, at least for artists - starve in a garret, beg, borrow, and steal to let themselves produce their own art in their own way. The rare comedy goes that they are discovered in the nick of time and become rich and famous. The far more common tragedy is that discovery comes too late. And the even more common reality is that (a) they manage to support themselves relatively well, usually doing something else and (b) they make the time and do what they like and (c) they make their own "discovery".

Heck - take several of your poems, and make some copies of them. Go down to your supermarket and find the manager. Point out to him (or her) that bulk natural food cereals don't have a box for the customers to read in the morning, so you'd like to help him offer them a treat - poetry to eat by. Talk him (or her) into putting up a little box, and the explanation of what this is, right beside the bulk cereal. This first set of poems is free for the store. And you have now "been published." But be patient, it gets better.

Watch - those poems will be picked up. And when the stack is nearly gone, you can talk to the store owner about paying you for the next ones (let them suggest a payment, if possible. keep the charge low, but make sure you get paid.) Figure out whether you want to do the copying yourself (to control paper quality) or let them do it. If you want to, talk them into reproducing it themselves but pay you a larger fee (since they can now make as many copies as they want, they may consider it a bargain).

You think I'm kidding, don't you? I just recently (here in Japan) saw something about a guy who's printing his short stories on T-shirts. Apparently they are selling, too.

Maybe that's not the kind of publication and market you're looking for, but please don't tell me you can't compete. You can. Get out there and go for it!

Jane also said

- Please don't be. The majority of us (let me know if I'm wrong) are,
- as yet, unpublished, so have no proof that we are better or worse
- than you (and even then, it's not really proof!) - regardless of what
- certain egotists might think. Do be prepared for some criticism
- and/or some praise, however.
-
- ENJOY!!!!!

I'm not sure if Jane will let me talk (I've got a 20 year old clipbook of newspaper articles and there are other odd bits and pieces around that have my name on them - but they're almost all non-fiction, Jane, and I sure never got paid much:-) To tell you the truth, though, I'm usually looking at my next piece - and so far, that's unpublished.

I can also state categorically from the pieces I've seen printed (and done) that publication has relatively little to do with value - a lot to do with timing, blank empty pages around paid-for ads that the editor has to fill, and other oddities. Let you in on a secret, though. If you don't write it, and don't send it out, the odds of being published are very, very low. If you follow the reverse strategy (write, submit, and keep submitting), the odds increase dramatically! Which reminds me, now I've got to get back to writing.

Heinlein's "recipe" (abridged from memory, 'cause I can't find the book)
1. write
2. finish what you write
3. don't rewrite unless an editor tells you to
4. put it on the market
5. keep it on the market until it sells
(sorry, this isn't very well organized. I got excited, and wanted to get it out this week. I managed to find hideyholes for all my files here, too.)

hope this helps,
mike
[identity profile] mbarker.livejournal.com
Original posting: Wed, 13 May 1998 09:41:35 EDT

FILLER: ESSAY: The Anti's (a piece from the past)

[a little piece from when I spent too much time with USENET...it seems appropriate to resurrect this now. I've also included a little sketch of the edge of the information highway, with punctuation weeds discarded by poets everywhere...tink]

:) Date: Mon, 22 Aug 1994 18:35:02 JST
:) From: Mike Barker
:) Subject: ESSAY: The Anti's

deviled eggs...ham...and a soda...beside the jalopy...
ah, green grass for a picnic site!

[from the American Rubiyat by Omor Satire]

probably upsetting... punish, at least...

tink

The Anti's

[who cares?]

One of the problems in the virtual picniclands along the information highway is the anti's.

They are everywhere.

You may have noticed them around the networks. The somewhat noisy small life buzzing around and wasting bandwidth? The denizens of killfiles and other wastelands?

Occasionally annoying and irritating in minor ways, they are likely to appear at any of the virtual picnics, begging for crumbs. Sometimes it seems as if they are trying to be swatted as they crawl around, waving their legs and trying to spoil the feast.

Anti's are fairly easy to recognize. They like to sneer about how successful they are at insulting, provoking, threatening, challenging, offending, and undermining (among other attacks and tantrums). The goal may not be worth the effort, and is more often missed than attained, but they do claim it, apparently never having considered what success at brutalizing other humans means...

Anti's often seem to delight in attempted personal attacks, namecalling, smearing, and other pitiful pleas for attention. All too often poorly written, without much understanding of the tactics and forms of the verbal violence they are trying to use, their ill-considered chattering is usually easy to identify.

I know, ignore them and in time they do go away. Swatting them isn't worth wasting bandwidth, and often encourages more childish outbursts from them.

But I have a question for the anti's. Not that I expect them to answer, as it requires thought, but...
Why?
Are anti's really so insecure in self, so undecided and fearful of their own thoughts, that the only way to reassure themself that they are alive is to be a noisy nuisance, trying to strike out at others without thinking of their hurt? Is tearing down others the only way they have ever learned to make themself look fractionally larger?

I've heard anti's make claims of being offensive. True offense requires depth, so the claim is prima facie implausible.

I can believe that they are lacking in self-assurance, without the confidence and pride in self needed to try to explain and help, and too impatient to try to understand another person--leaping to conclusions is so much easier and the intuitive results, while disastrously wrong, can be rationalized quite easily.

But while the anti's are undermining whatever poor sense of self they have left in pursuit of the faint feeling of relief incurred when someone strikes back, the slight sense of self that such agony may temporarily imbue them with, doesn't it hurt?

I wonder if they have ever thought about what their writing reveals about themself--their fears, their insecurities, their personal agonies?

I know that building is hard--but it is the only worthwhile challenge.

Working with people, helping them to understand and grow, increasing the possibilities and alternatives for human success, oiling the machinery of human and small group interaction, making friends and influencing strangers...no matter what terms you cast it in, doing something positive is much more difficult than tearing things down, but also much more satisfying. Dare to excel, little anti's, and learn your own strength.

Are the anti's up to facing that challenge? Or would they prefer to continue at their present level of minor irritant, buzzing and fussing without effect?

So, anti's, let me ask it simply--did you ever think about turning pro?

[oh. I do.]
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[identity profile] mbarker.livejournal.com
Original Posting: January, 1995

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First Nut, 1995!

(Hey, glad you could join us here this year. Keep writing!!!!)

Once upon a time...

The page just sort of sits there, waiting for words. Or (since this is the year of our electronic savor 1995) the screen sits there, blank and dark, with the little blobby cursor blinking, winking, waiting for you to tap at the keys, except...

You don't know where to start.

Or perhaps you scribble, secretly, around the crack of midnight or over the yawns of sunrise? Five minutes every day in the bathroom, twenty minutes every noon, and now you've got boxes and boxes of words that no one has ever seen?

Make this your year on your list.

Write here. Write now. And...

(pardon me while I slip into something metaphorical?)

Plant an acorn.

Take that apple core out of the trash and plant a seed for Johnny.

(we'll ignore the fertilizer--there's usually plenty around, no need to hunt for it:-)

Add water, sunshine, and just a touch of exposure--then stand back!

Because you are about to plant a tree, that may grow into a copse, or even a grove, which could turn into a thicket of wildwords, and--in time--a veritable forest of giant red words leaping out of the icy tundra of cyberspace into the glistening future!

(with Firewords at midnight! and light zephyrs of poetic musing in the morn!)

But new beginnings can be worrisome. You may wonder about your plot.

"When should I plow?"
"Should I till it or turn it or what?"
"Does dancing in the light of the full moon with a neighbor really ensure a good harvest, or just a good fence?"
"Is dancing with beagles or butterflies or some other friendly animus necessary for happiness?"

And this is a great place to get some advice on your own little garden.

I know, I know, sometimes we get noisy and seem too wrapped up in patting each other on the back and confused about who's leading the band.

(hah! got you fooled! there isn't a conductor. Some of the folk are playing jazz while others prefer classical rhythm and boos. And the drummers all beat to different marches, ides, and rittles. Really! So sit down and add your own odd notes, grace tones and melodies as the band plays on...)

But when the keyboard hits the end of the cable or the mouse runs off the edge of its cute little pad or even when quill-dipped ink slips slickly across smooth pressed bond paper...

It's words, writing, putting together fiction and poetry--that craft of dreams and art of the blackest inkspots, that mystery of bemused inspiration, that wonder of the storytellers' way which ties these humble (and some not so humble:-) practitioners together. That's why...

When the lightning of fairy poems crackles and the hairs on the back of your neck prickle...

When the explosive crash of ice snapping resounds across ponds and lakes of frozen talents caught by an unreasonable thaw...

When wordy flows remind us of the slow grandeur of the avalanche, the glacier, and the iceberg advancing implacable and awful in all their white glory...

When the dry slither of sunbaked air draws mirages, dustdevils, and Englishmen out in the daylight...

We'll know that you've been here!

Look forward to reading you on the list!

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[Please feel free to print this FAQ and keep a copy for when you have questions! In fact, the author would be pleased if you did that.]

The meat in this sandwich - v. 13, Jan. 1, 1995

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Should old plot engines be forgot...
And never poetry rhyme...
We'll make the words to ring again...
And sing of old plot lines!

Happy First Nut, 1995!

And look forward to many more words from you!
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[identity profile] mbarker.livejournal.com
Original Posting: Sat, 21 Aug 1993 18:00:06 JST

The Dare to Be Bad Challenge (thanks to Ken for the good words)

The Dare to be Bad challenge is a writing strategy designed to help beginners get published. It requires that you write a new story every week, and send them all out to magazines. When they come back, send them out again. And again, and again. In the meantime, keep writing.

The reason it's called Dare to be Bad is that some weeks your writing is going to be pretty awful, and you have to dare yourself to finish it, and mail it out, anyway.
 
Note that we aren't talking about spelling, grammar, or punctuation errors here. You must prepare your manuscript to the best of your ability each week; you just have to be willing to live with the fact that you aren't going to be writing Hugo-winning fiction for quite a while.

The original group of writers who started the Dare (among them is Kris Rusch, the editor of F&SF) claim that every person who has followed the Dare for over two years has become published. No exceptions.

Kousen's Corollary to the Dare to be Bad challenge: If you do decide to participate, for gosh sakes don't tell any other writers about it, except those already in the Dare. Otherwise you'll waste all your time defending yourself, and still be accused of being a "hack."

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