[identity profile] mbarker.livejournal.com
Original posting 21 Jan 2010

(lots of words... mostly borrowed!)

I think it behooves each of us to consider carefully how we present ourselves in the digital world. This includes thinking about what of ours we want to make public, especially with the ease of copying, distribution, etc. that is part of the digital world.

At the same time, it might be worth considering that many published authors are making some parts of their work relatively freely available. In fact, if you go to the Baen Free Library at http://www.baen.com/library/defaultTitles.htm you will find a large number of entire e-books freely available. Several of the Baen titles include CDs with even more volumes available, and http://baencd.thefifthimperium.com/ has the library of free CDs for people to copy. Individual authors are putting work up on their websites, and some people are experimenting with web serials and similar work open to the public! http://shadowunit.org/ for example.

The evidence from these folks is that giving away work in this way actually ends up creating more demand, and sells more books.

But each of us has to decide what we're willing to make available. Remember that by and large once something goes into the digital world, it may be very hard to ever get it out again.

At the same time, we should be aware of the terms of service that we are probably operating under. I know I was curious, and went to LiveJournal (another blogging service which I happen to use). I scrolled through their TOS and found ...

LiveJournal http://www.livejournal.com/legal/tos.bml
XIV. Journal Content
3. LiveJournal claims no ownership or control over any Content posted by its users. The author retains all patent, trademark, and copyright to all Content posted within available fields, and is responsible for protecting those rights, but is not entitled to the help of the LiveJournal staff in protecting such Content. The user posting any Content represents that it has all rights necessary to post such Content (and for LiveJournal to serve such Content) without violation of any intellectual property or other rights of third parties, or any laws or regulations;
Hum? Apparently LiveJournal believes that users retain all rights to their content.

Then I got curious, and went to check the Google TOS. The general Google TOS says...

Google Terms of Service http://www.google.com/accounts/TOS?hl=en&loc=en
9. Proprietary rights

9.4 Other than the limited license set forth in Section 11, Google acknowledges and agrees that it obtains no right, title or interest from you (or your licensors) under these Terms in or to any Content that you submit, post, transmit or display on, or through, the Services, including any intellectual property rights which subsist in that Content (whether those rights happen to be registered or not, and wherever in the world those rights may exist). Unless you have agreed otherwise in writing with Google, you agree that you are responsible for protecting and enforcing those rights and that Google has no obligation to do so on your behalf.

11. Content licence from you

    11.1 You retain copyright and any other rights you already hold in Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services. By submitting, posting or displaying the content you give Google a perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive licence to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute any Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services. This licence is for the sole purpose of enabling Google to display, distribute and promote the Services and may be revoked for certain Services as defined in the Additional Terms of those Services.

    11.2 You agree that this licence includes a right for Google to make such Content available to other companies, organizations or individuals with whom Google has relationships for the provision of syndicated services, and to use such Content in connection with the provision of those services.
    11.3 You understand that Google, in performing the required technical steps to provide the Services to our users, may (a) transmit or distribute your Content over various public networks and in various media; and (b) make such changes to your Content as are necessary to conform and adapt that Content to the technical requirements of connecting networks, devices, services or media. You agree that this licence shall permit Google to take these actions.

    11.4 You confirm and warrant to Google that you have all the rights, power and authority necessary to grant the above licence.
Huh! Google seems to agree, content belongs to the users. Maybe the Blogger TOS is different? Let's see...

And specifically the Blogger TOS http://www.blogger.com/terms.g
6. Intellectual Property Rights. Google's Intellectual Property Rights. You acknowledge that Google owns all right, title and interest in and to the Service, including all intellectual property rights (the "Google Rights"). Google Rights are protected by U.S. and international intellectual property laws. Accordingly, you agree that you will not copy, reproduce, alter, modify, or create derivative works from the Service. You also agree that you will not use any robot, spider, other automated device, or manual process to monitor or copy any content from the Service. As described immediately below, Google Rights do not include third-party content used as part of the Service, including the content of communications appearing on the Service.

Your Intellectual Property Rights. Google claims no ownership or control over any Content submitted, posted or displayed by you on or through Google services. You or a third party licensor, as appropriate, retain all patent, trademark and copyright to any Content you submit, post or display on or through Google services and you are responsible for protecting those rights, as appropriate. By submitting, posting or displaying Content on or through Google services which are intended to be available to the members of the public, you grant Google a worldwide, non-exclusive, royalty-free license to reproduce, publish and distribute such Content on Google services for the purpose of displaying and distributing Google services. Google furthermore reserves the right to refuse to accept, post, display or transmit any Content in its sole discretion.

You represent and warrant that you have all the rights, power and authority necessary to grant the rights granted herein to any Content submitted.

You may choose to submit, post, and display any materials on or through the Blogger service or Blogspot.com under a public license (e.g. a Creative Commons license), whether by manually marking your materials as such or using Blogger service tools to do so. For avoidance of doubt, Google is not a party to any such public license between you and any third party. Also, for avoidance of doubt, Google may choose to exercise the rights granted under (a) the public license or licenses, if any, you apply to your materials or (b) this Agreement.
Wow! Blogger agrees -- your content is yours.

Huh. I think the bottom line really is that... well, you should pick your own. But it looks as if both LiveJournal and Google agree -- your content is your own. Now, what you choose to put out there... that's up to you.
[identity profile] mbarker.livejournal.com
Original posting: Wed, 13 Oct 1993 18:00:06 JST

This is based on FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS ABOUT COPYRIGHT (V. 1.1.0) by Terry Carroll (by permission).

[it looks as if the current version is at http://www.tjc.com/copyright/FAQ/, or you can do a search for it?]

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Tink's Summary of Important Points from the Copyright FAQ

[Be aware that I am not a lawyer, that this is just my understanding of this field, and if you get your leg bit off following my advice - you won't have a leg to stand on when you sue me. This is also an active field of law right now, so today's notion won't be true forever... laws of man, unlike laws of nature, aren't set in the frame of the universe]

The KEY stuff:

When you set anything down in any "tangible medium of expression" (e.g., paper, disk, tape, canvas, etc.) IT IS AUTOMATICALLY COPYRIGHTED. That means YOU (and you alone) have the right to distribute, copy, modify, perform, or develop derivative works from it. IT IS YOURS!

Even if you post it to a workshop, you have NOT lost your copyright. You have (instead) exercised your exclusive right to copy and distribute it.

If you want to develop something based on someone else's material - ask them. It's common courtesy and ensures that YOU don't trip over a lawsuit. You don't want to try one on for the fun of it, honest.

Nagging Details:

Some questions that may be nagging you... and answers, as far as I can tell...

"I posted this without a copyright notice! Does that mean I've lost all my rights?"
Don't worry - you still have exactly the same copyright you had before. Since 1988 (in the U.S.), you do not have to include a copyright notice. Simply posting does not damage copyright, although it may impair your ability to collect damages.

You do not need to register with the Copyright Office or include a copyright notice, although you may. Registration costs 20 dollars.

Including a copyright notice is essentially free, and warns anyone looking at the work against "innocent infringement". That means they can't claim they didn't know the material was copyrighted, a defense which may allow them to avoid paying certain damages.

A copyright notice looks like this "Copyright 1993 Mike Barker". The word copyright (or the C in a circle mark, if you can do it), the year of first publication, and the name of the copyright holder.
"This hasn't been published, so it doesn't have a copyright, does it?"
The minute you set something down in "any tangible medium of expression," it is copyrighted material. Write it down, tap it in at a keyboard, talk it into your tape recorder - and you have copyright on that material.
"This was published without a copyright notice, so it isn't copyrighted, is it?"
WRONG! Publication does NOT remove copyright. (Note: older materials may indeed have become public domain if published without copyright notice. The safest course is to assume it has copyright, though.)
"What does copyright mean? Does it protect my ideas, too?"
Copyright is YOUR right to control creative work which you have produced. Specifically, you control copying, derivative works, distribution, performance, and modification of your work. You have these rights for as long as you live, or a little longer (ghosts of authors last 50 years).

Ideas, systems, factual information, or pre-existing material incorporated in your work ARE NOT protected. Titles, names, short phrases and slogans have no copyright protection.

Note that creative and original, in terms of the copyright laws, are minimal. Mostly it means you made it. That's all. (don't bother looking for the marks of the muse, the courts won't)

Something which has no copyright is in the "public domain." Anyone can use it for any purpose. Ways something gets into the public domain include waiting for the copyright to expire (wait until the ghost goes away); U.S. Government works; material that cannot be copyrighted; and abandoning copyright by "an unambigious statement or overt act on the part of the copyright holder that indicates his or her intent to dedicate the work to the public domain."

It is HARD to lose copyright. You have to deliberately work at it.
"Some jerk stole my story and sold it, but not for much. That's not a crime, is it?"
Copyright infringement is a FEDERAL CRIME if it is willful and for commercial advantage or private financial gain. Note that taking a copy of someone's story and selling it to a magazine as your own work would clearly fit this.
"This is just email. That's not copyrighted material."
Postings and email are copyrighted material. YOUR STORIES AND POEMS ARE YOUR COPYRIGHTED MATERIAL, EVEN IF YOU POST THEM!

I'm not sure whether there has been a case yet to verify this, but such material seems to clearly fall within the definition of material that has a copyright. In fact, the archives form a clear "tangible medium of expression" like any library.
"What can't be copyrighted?"
Titles, names, short phrases and slogans can't be copyrighted. Copyright protects only an author's original expression. It doesn't extend to any ideas, system or factual information that is conveyed in a copyrighted work, and it doesn't extend to any pre-existing material that the author has incorporated into a work.

(note - I have discussed with the originator of the FAQ what parts of a writer's product seem to be protected. CHARACTERS seem to be fairly clearly protected, so don't steal them. Settings, plots, etc. - I'll let you know if I ever get it straight. Don't expect it anytime soon, as this is at the fuzzy edge of the law. Consider what follows as a guide - your court case may be different.)
"Is everything in my story protected? I mean, my characters, settings, plot, everything?"
In essence, yes. Your original work is protected. BUT (especially with regard to plot), you may find that a son rebelling against parental orders has a long history as a plot - the original part is pretty small.

Where original, then, your story is protected. Your characters are protected. Your plot, as far as it is original, is protected. Your settings are protected.

However, while recognizable "chunks" from your story are protected, this shouldn't be pushed too far. For example, it may be difficult to show that characteristics of the character are exclusive to your piece (there may be other people in the world who light a cigarette twice).

Also, you (unconsciously, I'm sure) may have borrowed material from older sources, works in the public domain. Such ideas would not be protected. You have mixed in factual material which is not protected.

So, while your original expression and the parts of your story - characters, setting, plot, etc. - that are original are protected, there may be parts of your story which are not yours.

Frankly, I recommend you not worry about it. If someone uses some of the ideas in your story and others, then writes an original piece, be complimented that they found your ideas interesting enough to use and reassured that most of us couldn't copy something without making changes to save ourselves. If someone lifts the whole thing in a recognizable way, copyright protects you.

Editors (and others) will tell you that they receive stories dealing with the same ideas from totally separated authors fairly often. The problem is that the muses aren't all that unique - the words, and the skill in presenting the muses' inspiration, are. Quit fretting over ideas, and worry about getting your work in the best shape you can.
"This is copyrighted, but I'd still like to use it. What should I do?"
Write the author (in care of the publisher, if nothing else). Tell them what you would like to do, and get their permission to do it.

There is a doctrine of "fair use" which allows very limited amounts of material to be used in specific circumstances without asking permission. From my point of view, this doctrine is far narrower than I thought it was, and should probably NOT be depended on. Read the next section for some notion of what to check.

If you have any doubt about using it, ASK THE AUTHOR.
"Do you mean I gotta get permission every time I include a quote from someone else's posting?"
You are probably not using their material for commercial work, and you have probably learned to copy only the necessary material. Further, the impact on the market for most postings is minimal. So, you don't absolutely need to get permission. It would be safer.

There also are postings (e.g. submissions for criticism) which specifically are intended for comments, which may provide an implied license for use of the materials.

Private email is a whole different bag of earthworms, but (at a guess) you need permission to distribute it, at least. For private email, I'd say ask the author before any use.

The handling of network postings is speculative, in that no cases have been brought. Further, despite the tendency in America to go to court at the drop of a silver dollar, given the relative uneconomic conditions of the networks, it is likely that no cases will be brought.

I suppose I would recommend looking at how you are using the quotes - if you are using them in a way that you believe the original poster intended, you can probably get away without asking permission. If you are posting to places that the original poster did not or if you are using the words of the poster in a totally different context from what the poster intended, you should probably try to get permission.

THE DEFAULT, IF YOU ARE WORRIED ABOUT THE WAY YOU ARE USING IT, IS TO GET PERMISSION.

"Whether a particular use of a Usenet posting is a fair use is, as always, a very fact-specific determination. However, it's probably safe to say that it's a fair use if the use was not commercial in nature, the posting was not an artistic or dramatic work (e.g.,, it was the writer's opinion, or a declaration of facts, and not something like a poem or short story), only as much of the posting was copied as was necessary (e.g., a short quotation for purposes of criticism and comment), and there was little or no impact on any market for the posting." (from the FAQ, section 3.8)
Last Words:

Your material is protected by copyright as soon as you produce it. You must take deliberate steps to void that right, although you may exercise your copyright by distributing, copying, and modifying the work.

Whenever you want to use someone else's work, ask for permission.

That isn't so hard to understand, is it?
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